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despite the fact we've had all these worries, whether it be the fiscal cliff, the election, the situation in europe. nonetheless, gold has just not been the safe haven. this morning, it was industrial metals that got a boost as we saw rallies in asia on hopes that maybe this new regime in china is going to be spending more helping to prop up the property department there, housing, than might mean more demand for industrial metals. copper today, the standout in part because of that. also, a different note, the s.e.c. ahead of the holiday delayed a decision on the proposed etf, according to the "wall street journal," the etf would hold twice as much copper in terms of holdings compared to the jpmorgan holding approved on december 14th. >> i think 182,000 physical tons they could take off the market. we'll revisit it later. for a moment, thank you. bob pisani is joining me on the floor of the nyse. the big discussion is about retail and what the figures from mastercard tell us. >> i just want to point out that the dow industrials dropped in the middle of the day. there had been some concern
despite the fact we've had all these worries, whether it be the fiscal cliff, the election, the situation in europe. nonetheless, gold has just not been the safe haven. this morning, it was industrial metals that got a boost as we saw rallies in asia on hopes that maybe this new regime in china is going to be spending more helping to prop up the property department there, housing, than might mean more demand for industrial metals. copper today, the standout in part because of that. also, a...
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prescription for flu. >>> well, as we have been reporting this morning the fiscal cliff talks going down to the wire in washington. this as the president and top lawmakers are trying to avoid the potentially devastating tax increases and spending cuts that kick in with the new year. this morning on "fox news sunday," two prominent senators confident therenfy tent there will be a deal. >> hats off to the president. he stood his ground. he will get tax rate increases on upper income americans and the sad news for the country is that we accomplished little in terms of not becoming greece or getting out of debt. this deal won't affect the debt situation. it will be a political victory for the president and i hope we will have the courage of our convictions when it comes time to raise the debt ceiling to fight for what we believe as republicans. hats off to the president. he won. >> the time has come really to measure the absence of a deal plus against a deal and i think both of us come down that we have to solve this immediate situation. the danger to our people, to our military, to our nati
prescription for flu. >>> well, as we have been reporting this morning the fiscal cliff talks going down to the wire in washington. this as the president and top lawmakers are trying to avoid the potentially devastating tax increases and spending cuts that kick in with the new year. this morning on "fox news sunday," two prominent senators confident therenfy tent there will be a deal. >> hats off to the president. he stood his ground. he will get tax rate increases on...
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, the fiscal cliff deadline. we are getting closer. but even if lawmakers managed to reach a deal in time, they will likely put off big decisions on taxes and entitlement programs and the growing $16 trillion budget deficit. how do we deal with that? the former deputy assistant to former president george bush. brad and joe, welcome. >> good to be with you. >> eric: of course. brad, i mean, this morning, the with the was on with the meet the press," blaming republicans. the republicans call it a lack of presidential leadership. does this thing get solved? >> no, it certainly doesn't get solved the way it should be solved. we have debt, we is sequestration, any bill that happens today won't deal with the sequestration, which lindy graham said right here, he got a call last night from the defense secretary, worried to death that sequestration is going to gut the military. we are kicking the can down the road. judgment day is coming. there is no question about t. but the president, remember when he appointed the bipa
, the fiscal cliff deadline. we are getting closer. but even if lawmakers managed to reach a deal in time, they will likely put off big decisions on taxes and entitlement programs and the growing $16 trillion budget deficit. how do we deal with that? the former deputy assistant to former president george bush. brad and joe, welcome. >> good to be with you. >> eric: of course. brad, i mean, this morning, the with the was on with the meet the press," blaming republicans. the...
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cliff. the market trading in a tight range since the market closed. we've seen a little bit of an acceleration down. as has been the case for the past several sessions. what happens in the market hinges on what's happening in d.c. right now that's noga head of today's 3:00 p.m. meeting at the white house. despite fears we're heading over the cliff, despite disappointing news on holiday sales, retailers are looking strong. they've just come off the highs of their session. getting a new boost along the east coast and gulf of mexico has been averted for another 30 days. also higher today, the u.s. currency. strength here weighing on dollar based commodities. energy and material shares among today's weakest performers and because of fears the demand could slow up for both of these groups if the u.s. goes over the fiscal cliff. again, we're waiting for any news coming out of the 3:00 p.m. news. >> send it over to bertha coombs. what have you got on your 3450i7bd? >> as mary said, a lot of people
cliff. the market trading in a tight range since the market closed. we've seen a little bit of an acceleration down. as has been the case for the past several sessions. what happens in the market hinges on what's happening in d.c. right now that's noga head of today's 3:00 p.m. meeting at the white house. despite fears we're heading over the cliff, despite disappointing news on holiday sales, retailers are looking strong. they've just come off the highs of their session. getting a new boost...
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deal to avoid that fiscal cliff. president obama will be meeting with congressional leaders later today. danielle leigh joins us. >> that meeting in many ways a last opportunity for the president and congressional leaders to reach a deal and get something done before this year is over. if this meeting is unsuccessful it could seal this country's fate, as some developments yesterday. house members no longer on stand by. ready to come back sunday. to take a vote. when these tax cuts expire just about every worker is going to see their paycheck reduced. it's going to eliminate unemployment extensions and initiate spending cuts across the board. >> how will people see this in their paychecks and in their taxes? >> workers will feel it immediately in their paychecks. those paychecks will be reduced. those making 40,000, 50,000 are going to see 1700 less a year. it continues as the wages increase. so people are going to feel this in their pocketbooks. >> all right, danielle, thank you. >>> last night on the rachel maddow s
deal to avoid that fiscal cliff. president obama will be meeting with congressional leaders later today. danielle leigh joins us. >> that meeting in many ways a last opportunity for the president and congressional leaders to reach a deal and get something done before this year is over. if this meeting is unsuccessful it could seal this country's fate, as some developments yesterday. house members no longer on stand by. ready to come back sunday. to take a vote. when these tax cuts expire...
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south. >>> president obama cuts his christmas vacation short for the fiscal cliff. >>> and the longest high speed train. good morning. i'm richard lui. christmas was anything but merry for residents of the deep south. christmas packed a deadly punch. three residents are victims of the storm that hit four states as far south as texas. >> oh, wow, oh jr, look at that tornado. >> reporter: in mobile, alabama, a christmas surprise no one wished for right in this city center. it left lots of damage in its wa wake, blowing out first and second floor windows at the medical center and the roof at the high school. there are no deaths but tens of thousands are without electricity. it sent customers running for cover. >> he looked out the windows and said there is a tornado coming. i looked out, saw the debris flying around, got everybody and the customers an said, we need to run to the back and everybody huddle down. >> i probably hurt my baby grabbing her running for protection. there was no time. >> reporter: the twister was from a massive storm that stretched across the nation. earlier, a tor
south. >>> president obama cuts his christmas vacation short for the fiscal cliff. >>> and the longest high speed train. good morning. i'm richard lui. christmas was anything but merry for residents of the deep south. christmas packed a deadly punch. three residents are victims of the storm that hit four states as far south as texas. >> oh, wow, oh jr, look at that tornado. >> reporter: in mobile, alabama, a christmas surprise no one wished for right in this city...
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not just the fiscal cliff. dairy farms have issues, wind farms facing cliffs of their own. brings us to this morning's squawk on the tweet. our question is this. in addition to the fiscal, milk, and wind farm cliffs what other cliffs are you worried about? >> cliffs with soft edges, slippery slopes, narrow winding trails and no watering holes. sounds terrible. mark writes the twinkie cliff. oh, wait that already happened. one of the big business stories of 2012. gregory writes the ones in the andes mountains in peru where i trek every june. a lot to worry about as we go into the new year. want to touch on some movers in today's session. check out hp confirming the justice department is looking into allegations that autonomy engaged in some questionable accounting practices before hp acquired it last year. this was huge news
not just the fiscal cliff. dairy farms have issues, wind farms facing cliffs of their own. brings us to this morning's squawk on the tweet. our question is this. in addition to the fiscal, milk, and wind farm cliffs what other cliffs are you worried about? >> cliffs with soft edges, slippery slopes, narrow winding trails and no watering holes. sounds terrible. mark writes the twinkie cliff. oh, wait that already happened. one of the big business stories of 2012. gregory writes the ones in...
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president obama brings his christmas vacation short as the clock ticks down on the fiscal cliff. >>> and why are movies so long? >>> a look at the world's longest high speed train. good morning to you. i'm richard lui. christmas was anything but merry for residents of the deep south, where a winter storm packed a dangerous deadly punch. at least three deaths are being blamed on a severe weather system that spawned tornadoes in four states and dumped snow as far south as texas. the latest from alabama. >> reporter: oh, wow. oh, jesus, look at that tornado. >> reporter: in mobile, alabama, a christmas surprise no one wished for. a tornado caught on video as it touched down right this city center. emergency management officials say the twister left lots of damage in its wake blowing out first and second floor windows at the mobile infirmary medical center and the roof at the high school. so far no injuries or death, but wit trees and power lines down tens of thousands are without electricity. one store sent customers scrambling for cover. >> one customer looked out the window and said t
president obama brings his christmas vacation short as the clock ticks down on the fiscal cliff. >>> and why are movies so long? >>> a look at the world's longest high speed train. good morning to you. i'm richard lui. christmas was anything but merry for residents of the deep south, where a winter storm packed a dangerous deadly punch. at least three deaths are being blamed on a severe weather system that spawned tornadoes in four states and dumped snow as far south as texas....
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we are following the latest on the fiscal cliff negotiations. there's a big white house meeting going on today. but the white house says it's not open to negotiation. so we will tell you about that. also coming up on the show special drink to make this new year's eve and the skwlooifrng cure for the after all coming up top of the hour. see you then. i did in the last five hours? i played a round of golf. then i read a book while teaching myself how to play guitar; ran ten miles while knitting myself a sweater; jumped out of a plane. finally, i became a ping pong master while recording my debut album. how you ask? with 5-hour energy. i get hours of energy now -- no crash later. wait to see the next five hours. like say, gas station sushi. cheap is good. and sushi, good. but cheap sushi, not so good. it's like that super-low rate on not enough car insurance. pretty sketchy. ♪ and then there are the good decisions. like esurance. their coverage counselor tool helps you choose the right coverage for you at a great price. [ stomach growls ] without
we are following the latest on the fiscal cliff negotiations. there's a big white house meeting going on today. but the white house says it's not open to negotiation. so we will tell you about that. also coming up on the show special drink to make this new year's eve and the skwlooifrng cure for the after all coming up top of the hour. see you then. i did in the last five hours? i played a round of golf. then i read a book while teaching myself how to play guitar; ran ten miles while knitting...
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>> the fiscal cliff puts it in jeopardy. many are afraid to invest in their business and hire new workers. make plans. >> no longer vetting a deal is done by new year's eve f. one comes by early january definitely a possibility. the economic impact should be minim minimal. if one comes later than that the damage to the economy is already done and you will see more talk of recession and analysts started cutting the earnings growth in the fourth quarter. >> one thing they don't like is uncertainty. apple released a new product and there will be another new product. >> now that you got them under the christmas tree. a man who has been right predicting apple products before a 5th generation ipad will look like the mini but some what thinner narrower and shorter than a regular ipad so not as small. apple is working on another generation of the ipad mini. it could be two new products. >> we could have just wasted our money at christmastime. >> sales were down from what was expected. >> yeah, the holiday shopping season a disappoin
>> the fiscal cliff puts it in jeopardy. many are afraid to invest in their business and hire new workers. make plans. >> no longer vetting a deal is done by new year's eve f. one comes by early january definitely a possibility. the economic impact should be minim minimal. if one comes later than that the damage to the economy is already done and you will see more talk of recession and analysts started cutting the earnings growth in the fourth quarter. >> one thing they don't...
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wrench in the fiscal cliff talks, announcing that the u.s. will reach its budget cliff by monday. we'll discuss that on "morning joe." and when we come back, we'll hudding around the water cooler, where it gets awkward in an interview between the obamas and barbara walters. that's next when "way too early" comes right back. ♪ >>> okay, enough with the real news, let's gather around the water cooler to watch barbara walters try to pull back the curtain on life at the white house. the 83-year-old journalist sat down to interview president obama and the first lady, assuming we've all heard plenty about the fiscal cliff, walters wasted little time pivoting to more intimate territory. >> when you look at this picture, what do you think? at what point was it taken? >> i think we were campaigning in iowa. >> so, why were you hugging so hard in iowa? >> because i love my wife. >> well, and also, i hadn't seen him in a while. i mean, you know, when you're campaigning, we're two ships passing in the night, and the first time i saw him was when i walk
wrench in the fiscal cliff talks, announcing that the u.s. will reach its budget cliff by monday. we'll discuss that on "morning joe." and when we come back, we'll hudding around the water cooler, where it gets awkward in an interview between the obamas and barbara walters. that's next when "way too early" comes right back. ♪ >>> okay, enough with the real news, let's gather around the water cooler to watch barbara walters try to pull back the curtain on life at...
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the fiscal cliff, president obama has ended the freeze on federal pay, only about .5%. and biden will see his pay go go up to $231,900. speaker boehner will make $224,600. that's $30,000 more than the pay of senate and house majority and minority leaders. those raises maybe good news for congress. but the rest of america won't be so happy when they see their paycheck next year. it's almost certain that the government will not extend the payroll tax holiday. that means a 2% tax increase for every last one of us. joining me is gerald bernstein, a senior fellow at the center of budget and policy priorities. get the title out. let's get to business. why are we not talking about this? talking about the cliff, but everybody's taxes going up with the payroll tax holiday. >>ith a great question, t.j. an important and underappreciated part of the fiscal cliff. the answer to the why is it really doesn't have any champions. when you hear the list of things people fighting for, estate tax, you hear the unemployment extension, things like that. you don't even hear this listed anymor
the fiscal cliff, president obama has ended the freeze on federal pay, only about .5%. and biden will see his pay go go up to $231,900. speaker boehner will make $224,600. that's $30,000 more than the pay of senate and house majority and minority leaders. those raises maybe good news for congress. but the rest of america won't be so happy when they see their paycheck next year. it's almost certain that the government will not extend the payroll tax holiday. that means a 2% tax increase for...
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countdown to the fiscal cliff. there are some signs of hope this morning. and it oob thanks to republican senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. peter doocy live in washington with the very latest. peter, i guess they reconvene 1:00 tomorrow which leads them oh tons of time to avert that fiscal cliff you are hearing from administration officials down here that republican the senatech mcconnell the is trying really hard to figure out a way to avoid the fiscal cliff public. >> we had a good meeting at the white house. we are engaged in discussions, the majority leader and myself and the white house in the hopes that we can come forward as early as sunday and have a recommendation that i can make to my conference and the expwrort leader can make to his conference. >> at yesterday's white house meeting, president obama did not offer negotiators anything new. he just tried to sell them on the same plan he outlined last friday, being called plan c. since the president's plan a and speaker boehner's plan b both failed to gain traction. plan c would extend middle
countdown to the fiscal cliff. there are some signs of hope this morning. and it oob thanks to republican senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. peter doocy live in washington with the very latest. peter, i guess they reconvene 1:00 tomorrow which leads them oh tons of time to avert that fiscal cliff you are hearing from administration officials down here that republican the senatech mcconnell the is trying really hard to figure out a way to avoid the fiscal cliff public. >> we had a...
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. >>> we will get to the fiscal cliff. five days away from the tax hike. as you probably know, the president pulled the plug on his holiday trip to hawaii and arrived back in washington after 11:00 this morning in hopes of locking in taxes as they are right now for all but the wealgyest 2 percewealgy e wealthiest 2%. the house is telling us no, that is not the case. i got jessica yellen standing by and we have dana barb who is standing by and they are there on capitol hill. what is the mix up between sending a plan and not sending a plan by the president? >> hi, john. the bottom line is both sides want to take action and before senat senator mcconnell decides whether to filibuster the measure and whether the other republicans in the party will filibuster, they have to see the details in the proposal. will there be an estate tax provision? how will unemployment which is expected to be extended? will it be paid for? what spending measures will be in this and spending cuts, etc. there will be more details spelled out and where will that come from? will it com
. >>> we will get to the fiscal cliff. five days away from the tax hike. as you probably know, the president pulled the plug on his holiday trip to hawaii and arrived back in washington after 11:00 this morning in hopes of locking in taxes as they are right now for all but the wealgyest 2 percewealgy e wealthiest 2%. the house is telling us no, that is not the case. i got jessica yellen standing by and we have dana barb who is standing by and they are there on capitol hill. what is the...
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cliff. >> you know, rick santelli, i love this country. i chose to move to this country, but i'm getting very frustrated with the leaders of this country. >> welcome to america. >> they are teaching us fiscal irresponsibility. want us to pay our mortgage on time, pay our taxes on time when they seem to not be able to do anything on time themselves. >> well, that's a softball for you, rick. >> and the entire argument that, you know, the wealthy, they don't mind. they vote for higher taxes. they don't spend the money anyway. tell that to all the cottage industries, people that help with housework, watch the kids, vacations, airlines, i don't buy into it. i think that's one of the reasons stocks act the way they do. i'll tell you. i have a different slant on this. i'm not a big scott brown follower. i think he's a little different, in my book, but that tweet he sent where the president made the gop a deal and he was jumping on a plane and all of a sudden the white house denied it's true and now
cliff. >> you know, rick santelli, i love this country. i chose to move to this country, but i'm getting very frustrated with the leaders of this country. >> welcome to america. >> they are teaching us fiscal irresponsibility. want us to pay our mortgage on time, pay our taxes on time when they seem to not be able to do anything on time themselves. >> well, that's a softball for you, rick. >> and the entire argument that, you know, the wealthy, they don't mind....
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five days until we fall off the fiscal cliff. the president returning to washington to try to negotiate things there. doug luzader is life with the president's plans and what could happen if a deal isn't reached in time. >> the president is in the air on board air force one heading back from hawaii. he is going to come back from washington where not much has changed. as far as congress is concerned the senate will be meeting today. interesting little tidbit this is the first time since 19170 there have been legislative business conducted in the weeks of between christmas and new years. we will see some activity on hap t capitol hill. there may be a stopgap measure to try to prevent the calamity that happens at the end of the year if we reach the fiscal cliff. if we do not have some kind of a compromise. here's what's going to happen. just about everybody is going to have a tax increase. the number goes up significantly with incomes. if you are talking 200 to 500,000 in income almost 14,000 dollars in tax hikes. the wealthiest ame
five days until we fall off the fiscal cliff. the president returning to washington to try to negotiate things there. doug luzader is life with the president's plans and what could happen if a deal isn't reached in time. >> the president is in the air on board air force one heading back from hawaii. he is going to come back from washington where not much has changed. as far as congress is concerned the senate will be meeting today. interesting little tidbit this is the first time since...
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likely we will go off the fiscal cliff. if we do go off, is buying gold your best bet? even with the cliff looming, gold has done badly over the past month. does that surprise you? >> it does. when you look at money printing going on in japan and the fiscal cliff here and debt ceiling limit and relatively weak dollar, gold should have a lot more shine to it. >> not like the possibility of going over the cliff is something new. if gold is getting a bit on cliff fears, why has it sold off in the last month? what's taken so long? >> funny you mention that, they read the headline, harry reid says, looks like we're going over the cliff, i don't think anybody thinks about that. but everybody hits the sell button because they think everybody's going to. there's plenty of reason to buy gold but whatever gold is dealing with on the negative side it is not done dealing with. i don't think it's a good time. we're going over the fiscal cliff but shortly there after, gold is going. long term i want gold but short term not so much. >> no
likely we will go off the fiscal cliff. if we do go off, is buying gold your best bet? even with the cliff looming, gold has done badly over the past month. does that surprise you? >> it does. when you look at money printing going on in japan and the fiscal cliff here and debt ceiling limit and relatively weak dollar, gold should have a lot more shine to it. >> not like the possibility of going over the cliff is something new. if gold is getting a bit on cliff fears, why has it sold...
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cliff. now that plan b is that, will there be a plan c or f for failing? peter: president obama expecting to arrive in d.c. tomorrow. white house says they will let us know if there is any update in the talks for congressional leadership. the leader's office is me no news to report. as of now, we are still headed for the cliff. on january 1, the nation faces a $5 trillion tax increase over ten years to the expiration of the bush tax cuts. the lapse of the bush tax cut would mean the top would go to 39.6. tax rates would also go all for lower income earners. the maximum lowest rate going back to 15%. four investors, capital gains rates would revert to 20%. dagen: i will not utter that word. thank you for that. growing pessimism when it comes to the club. some americans say we will get a deal. let's bring in ted kaufman. he is joining us from wilmington tell me what happens if we go over the cliff? >> i have been saying for a while we will go over the cliff. republican members in the house hav
cliff. now that plan b is that, will there be a plan c or f for failing? peter: president obama expecting to arrive in d.c. tomorrow. white house says they will let us know if there is any update in the talks for congressional leadership. the leader's office is me no news to report. as of now, we are still headed for the cliff. on january 1, the nation faces a $5 trillion tax increase over ten years to the expiration of the bush tax cuts. the lapse of the bush tax cut would mean the top would...
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of course, there's only one main story this morning. it's a familiar one. the looming fiscal cliff. aides for both parties now saying a partial agreement or patch probably the most that we can be expecting before january 1. >> i think we're dealing now with whether or not we can put off the -- the increase in tax rates. that's really all we can deal with now. >> the next session of the senate is now set for tomorrow. the house has nothing on its schedule for this week. members have been told they could be called back within 48 hours' notice. meantime, and this i guess is also the big news, the white house saying the president's going to be flying back from vacation in hawaii today. a lot of people making something of that. i don't know what it means ultimately. >> well, one thing it means -- >> a show of something. >> if i had to get back from hawaii at a minute's notice, you know what it would be. the president will have an easier time of it, i think. right? >> i noticed a couple of news reports saying the cost of the last-minute flight is about $250 -- >> he's the president, he's
of course, there's only one main story this morning. it's a familiar one. the looming fiscal cliff. aides for both parties now saying a partial agreement or patch probably the most that we can be expecting before january 1. >> i think we're dealing now with whether or not we can put off the -- the increase in tax rates. that's really all we can deal with now. >> the next session of the senate is now set for tomorrow. the house has nothing on its schedule for this week. members have...
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as we reported before the commercial break, senate majority leader harry reid says no fiscal cliff vote planned for tonight because the democrats have not been able to come up with a counter offer. they're arguing amongst themself, the senate plans to be back at 11:00 a.m. eastern tomorrow morning. but they're still in their offices with their staff. they're tending to other business we're told while we wait. we want to bring in susan, the chief congressional correspondent for the washington examiner. we've heard -- first, what do the republicans want? >> they'd like a bill that keeps taxes low for all income earners. they're not going to to go that to they want to keep the threshold as high as possible. president obama initially suggested $250,000 or above should see an increase. that number will probably be maybe 400,000, 500 thousands, but republicans want to see spending cuts. today they talked about changing the way social security benefits would be administered over time and save money, entitlement reform. that's off the table so republicans are saying where are we going off spend
as we reported before the commercial break, senate majority leader harry reid says no fiscal cliff vote planned for tonight because the democrats have not been able to come up with a counter offer. they're arguing amongst themself, the senate plans to be back at 11:00 a.m. eastern tomorrow morning. but they're still in their offices with their staff. they're tending to other business we're told while we wait. we want to bring in susan, the chief congressional correspondent for the washington...
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he's flying back to washington tonight as the clock ticks toward the fiscal cliff. nancy cordes is with the president in honolulu. nancy? >> reporter: jim, the president is trading the sand for snowy washington. he'll be back in the nation's capital by mid-morning tomorrow, and most of the u.s. senate will be attempting to get back there by then, as well. but house leaders have not given their members the signal to return to washington and say they won't until the u.s. senate passes a bill to avert the fiscal cliff. as the president wrapped up his vacation, federal workers trickled back into the nation's capital. but the only people who can avert the fiscal cliff, members of the house and senate, have not returned, and, in just six days, a 2% payroll tax is set to expire, along with the bush era tax cuts, shrinking the average workers' paycheck in 2013 by about $1,500. long-term unemployment benefits for about two million jobless americans are also set to expire, and $110 billion worth of spending cuts to both domestic and defense programs will start to kick in, for
he's flying back to washington tonight as the clock ticks toward the fiscal cliff. nancy cordes is with the president in honolulu. nancy? >> reporter: jim, the president is trading the sand for snowy washington. he'll be back in the nation's capital by mid-morning tomorrow, and most of the u.s. senate will be attempting to get back there by then, as well. but house leaders have not given their members the signal to return to washington and say they won't until the u.s. senate passes a...
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the fiscal cliff? who gets a pay raise before they get the job done? it's a ridiculous notion and shows me how out of touch washington d.c. is with the rest of the country. >> dave: it's certainly not about merit. according to one report, this is the least productive congress since the 1940's in terms of the amount of bills they've passed that have gone into law. let's talk about some, joe biden, for example, gets a raise 225 to now $231,000. we move on to a couple of others, if we can spin through to give you an example. john boehner increase of $1,000, so they're not enormous raises, they are fairly mottdest, right, peter? >> they are fairly modest, it affects not only congress, but the supreme court justices and also includes senior executives in the executive branch. the cost of this, according to the congressional budget office, is going to be about 1 billion dollars a year with this increase for senior executives in government. so, literally, think about this. they're talking about the fiscal cli
the fiscal cliff? who gets a pay raise before they get the job done? it's a ridiculous notion and shows me how out of touch washington d.c. is with the rest of the country. >> dave: it's certainly not about merit. according to one report, this is the least productive congress since the 1940's in terms of the amount of bills they've passed that have gone into law. let's talk about some, joe biden, for example, gets a raise 225 to now $231,000. we move on to a couple of others, if we can...
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on to the fiscal cliff this morning. the president cutting his vacation short in hawaii. the president plans to leave for washington tonight. congress expected to return on thursday. president, guys, not expected to actually arrive in washington until tomorrow morning. no talks scheduled that we know of as of yet. all the attention's going to turn to the senate, which tends to be more of a compromising body than the house is. >> yes. and the president is available in person if you should want to go over there and visit with him. or perhaps if he wants to visit with anybody else. the consensus seems to be if you get some sort of a deal, it's obviously not going to be the big deal. it will simply be something that extends the tax cuts for the vast majority of americans, at least those earning less than $250,000 a year. the consensus seems to be, carl, that if we don't get a deal by the second or third or fourth week, the super bowl week, we'll start to feel it in the economy. >> we had a notable sell-off. there is typically a bias on christmas eve, but the worst christmas e
on to the fiscal cliff this morning. the president cutting his vacation short in hawaii. the president plans to leave for washington tonight. congress expected to return on thursday. president, guys, not expected to actually arrive in washington until tomorrow morning. no talks scheduled that we know of as of yet. all the attention's going to turn to the senate, which tends to be more of a compromising body than the house is. >> yes. and the president is available in person if you should...
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. >> president obama, congressional leaders meeting at the white house to avoid the fiscal cliff. we'll bring you the latest developments on that any minute now. >> also, we'll check up on health care, one of the year's best performing sectors. we'll find out if it's going to run out of steam in the new year and name some names for you coming up. >> and later on, big sky, big jump in estate taxes if congress fails to reach a deal on the cliff. we'll talk to a montana rancher who is pretty upset. coming up, montana's governor brian schweitzer is going to weigh in. >> looks like the meeting may have broken up. there goes nancy pelosi, and we are told now house speaker boehner may have already left, and, no, they are not talking to reporters. nancy is looking for her car to leave the white house, and we're not getting anybody talking to the reporters at this point, so maybe we'll get some -- and i'm told now the futures market in the after-hours pegs is extending the losses that we've been seeing in the last hour of trade. maybe we'll get eamon javers to get in front of the camera wh
. >> president obama, congressional leaders meeting at the white house to avoid the fiscal cliff. we'll bring you the latest developments on that any minute now. >> also, we'll check up on health care, one of the year's best performing sectors. we'll find out if it's going to run out of steam in the new year and name some names for you coming up. >> and later on, big sky, big jump in estate taxes if congress fails to reach a deal on the cliff. we'll talk to a montana rancher...
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about the fiscal cliff. he thought it was a bunch of hype. this was really interesting, brian. i only talked to about a dozen people so it's not scientific, but not one of them, i had all age groups, not one was here using a gift card or had gotten a gift card. now, again, maybe the early shoppers aren't doing gift cards but i found that interesting. >> let's do our own unscientific study right now. between mandy and yourself, very quickly, i haven't bought gift cards in about two years because i found they're sort of boring gifts. you feel like you haven't put any thought into it. i moved away from them. >> it's a lazy gift. it is totally a lazy gift. >> reporter: no. you guys, you guys don't know. my kids are 20 and 22. that's all they want. don't buy me clothes, mom. i just want money. just give me the gift card. it's a generational thing. >> so give them cash. >> yeah. even better. >> reporter: i can give them cash but it's a little safer, maybe, to carry a card around, maybe. maybe not. >> i don't know.
about the fiscal cliff. he thought it was a bunch of hype. this was really interesting, brian. i only talked to about a dozen people so it's not scientific, but not one of them, i had all age groups, not one was here using a gift card or had gotten a gift card. now, again, maybe the early shoppers aren't doing gift cards but i found that interesting. >> let's do our own unscientific study right now. between mandy and yourself, very quickly, i haven't bought gift cards in about two years...
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>> no. >> the fiscal cliff topping our headlines this morning. speaker john boehner urging the senate to come up with a passable debt solution, promising to at least consider any bill the uper chamber produces. senator harry reid to continue tax breaks for households with incomes below $250,000. the senate bill would also likely contain an extension of expiring unemployment benefits. the fiscal cliff is not the only ticking clock in washington. in a letter to congress treasury secretary tim geithner said the u.s. would hit the $16.4 trillion ceiling on monday. without extraordinary measures geithner announced that the treasury would begin accounting moves that would keep the government from hitting its credit limit for about two months. the treasury secretary warning that it's hard to predict exactly how much time the accounting moves will buy, because ongoing cliff negotiations make it hard for them to forecast revenue and spending for next year. >>> housing prices, some good news. on track to record their first yearly gain since 2006. it's a fr
>> no. >> the fiscal cliff topping our headlines this morning. speaker john boehner urging the senate to come up with a passable debt solution, promising to at least consider any bill the uper chamber produces. senator harry reid to continue tax breaks for households with incomes below $250,000. the senate bill would also likely contain an extension of expiring unemployment benefits. the fiscal cliff is not the only ticking clock in washington. in a letter to congress treasury...
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. >>> after passing through the house and now the senate, a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff still seems to be going nowhere. without a deal, tax hikes and massive spending cuts are in effect on january 1st. so here's what senate leader harry reid had to say earlier. >> this morning we've been trying to come up with some counteroffer to my friends' proposal. we've been unable to do that. i've had a number of conversations with the president, and at this stage we're not able to make a counteroffer. >> nbc news deputy political editor dominic a montenaro join us. >> hope is not a plan, and, you know, i think both sides are still far apart. i think they, you know, say they will continue negotiating. you saw the chain cpi now game off the table but a lot of this is posturing. republicans were outraged that harry reid went to the floor today to say that chain cpi is a deal-breaker because they didn't think, you know, that that was the line in the sand for them and they were saying that harry reid is trying to, you know, just play a political -- do a political maneuver here to signal that -- t
. >>> after passing through the house and now the senate, a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff still seems to be going nowhere. without a deal, tax hikes and massive spending cuts are in effect on january 1st. so here's what senate leader harry reid had to say earlier. >> this morning we've been trying to come up with some counteroffer to my friends' proposal. we've been unable to do that. i've had a number of conversations with the president, and at this stage we're not able to make...
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good morning. >> the stock mark has tracked the progress of the fiscal cliff talks or lack thereof. falling on news of no deal and now at a relative standstill, still the major markets were up and the s&p is up up 13% for the year. later this week we expect more signs of economic improvement especially in the housing market. home price data comes out on wednesday. new homes sales data comes out on tuesday. we wait and send it back over to you. >> queen elizabeth ii is going 3d. the 86-year-old none nanch filmed her annual christmas day message this year in 3d for the first time ever. she pays tribute to the summer olympics games in london. 2012 is a landmark year for the monarch between the summer games, her diamond jubilee and the news a great-grandchildren is on the way. it's 7:18. back over to natalie, willie and maria. >> odysseying her wi odd seeing glasses over. maria is back for the holiday forecast. >> we have one low coming through, and maybe just enough for a little bit of wet accumulation north and west of the city. it's a lot more rain and the showers and thunderstorms a
good morning. >> the stock mark has tracked the progress of the fiscal cliff talks or lack thereof. falling on news of no deal and now at a relative standstill, still the major markets were up and the s&p is up up 13% for the year. later this week we expect more signs of economic improvement especially in the housing market. home price data comes out on wednesday. new homes sales data comes out on tuesday. we wait and send it back over to you. >> queen elizabeth ii is going 3d....
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cliff. it's come down to a matter of hours. midnight tomorrow, everybody's taxes going up unless something happens in washington, d.c. hello to you all and welcome to weekends with alex witt. i'm t.j. holmes filling in for alex. a consequence of history in the nation's capital if congress cannot reach a compromise deal on tax and spending cuts. a short time ago, we were hearing from the president talking about the fiscal cliff negotiations. he spoke exclusively on "meet the press" and he had a message for congress. >> at minimum, make sure people's taxes don't go up and 2 million people don't lose their unemployment. i was modestly hopeful yesterday. now, the pressure is on congress to produce. >> the president responded to what would happen if no agreement is reached and the nation does fall over that cliff. >> if you look at projections of 2013, people generally felt that the economy would continue to grow, unemployment would tick down, housing would continue to improve, but what's been ho
cliff. it's come down to a matter of hours. midnight tomorrow, everybody's taxes going up unless something happens in washington, d.c. hello to you all and welcome to weekends with alex witt. i'm t.j. holmes filling in for alex. a consequence of history in the nation's capital if congress cannot reach a compromise deal on tax and spending cuts. a short time ago, we were hearing from the president talking about the fiscal cliff negotiations. he spoke exclusively on "meet the press" and...
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now we want to look back at this looming fiscal cliff. with me now, someone all too familiar with these fiscal cliff negotiations, democrat congresswoman karen bass, a member of the budget committee. good morning to you. you are not quite in d.c. yet, but you are headed there soon. when you get there, though, what do you anticipate you're going to be doing? >> good morning, t.j. what i anticipate is going to happen is that the floor will be opening up on debate for a variety of bills. and frankly, in terms of the house we're going to be waiting for the senate to act. we do have other work to do. so i know that we're going to go in session and begin voting at 6:30 tomorrow evening. but i think the business is in the senate right now. so let's see what reid and mcconnell come up withed today >> i have been hearing some optimism this morning at least in relation to these two men, mcconnell and reid, veterans being able to get something through the senate. so there's some optimism they'll be able to come up with something. but the issue is no
now we want to look back at this looming fiscal cliff. with me now, someone all too familiar with these fiscal cliff negotiations, democrat congresswoman karen bass, a member of the budget committee. good morning to you. you are not quite in d.c. yet, but you are headed there soon. when you get there, though, what do you anticipate you're going to be doing? >> good morning, t.j. what i anticipate is going to happen is that the floor will be opening up on debate for a variety of bills. and...
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the fiscal cliff headline watch continues. you just heard john kanas say the market not too concerned. futures up 21 points. decent data out of europe, we will talk about in a minute what a day for the asian markets again. also coming up. our road map begins at andrews air force base where the president arrives in a couple of hours, cutting his hawaiian vacation short to address the fiscal cliff s there really any hope in the last attempt? does the market fade if there's no news tomorrow night? >> the nikkei continues its 21-month run. how much is the boj willing to put up with? >> looking a at potential strike in the nation's port on the east and southern coast, the first since '77 that could cost retailers and importers billions. businesses now asking its white house to get involved. >>> you can now get the nokia lumia for free, depending on the service provider contract you sign s that standard practice or a sign the company's flagship phone suspect selling well? >>> we will start off with news about the fiscal cliff. congr
the fiscal cliff headline watch continues. you just heard john kanas say the market not too concerned. futures up 21 points. decent data out of europe, we will talk about in a minute what a day for the asian markets again. also coming up. our road map begins at andrews air force base where the president arrives in a couple of hours, cutting his hawaiian vacation short to address the fiscal cliff s there really any hope in the last attempt? does the market fade if there's no news tomorrow night?...
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out how to bridge a 400 million dollar gap in their positions to avoid the fiscal cliff. the last time we heard from the president, he thought a break would benefit and bring lawmakers together. to make a difference >> everybody can cool off and drink egg nogand have christmas cookies and sing christmas carrolls and enjoy the company of loved ones and ask every member of congress when they are back home to think about that. think . obligations of people who cent us here. >> speaker boehner is expected to return to dc any time he with drew the republican plan b deal that extends tax cuts to everyone under millionaire. he was confident that the cliff could be avoided last time we heard from him. >> of course, hope springs eternal and i know we have in us to come together and do the right thing. we'll work on a plan to protect families and small businesses. >> and so there is time for a in person meeting. >> we are getting some twitter for rick. what is new york city looking like with a nor'easter on thursday. i want to know the answer on that. deadly storm system that pound
out how to bridge a 400 million dollar gap in their positions to avoid the fiscal cliff. the last time we heard from the president, he thought a break would benefit and bring lawmakers together. to make a difference >> everybody can cool off and drink egg nogand have christmas cookies and sing christmas carrolls and enjoy the company of loved ones and ask every member of congress when they are back home to think about that. think . obligations of people who cent us here. >> speaker...
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last call in hopes of rescuing off of the fiscal cliff. all that is getting debated is who is at fault and what is the president's plan. according to the white house there is no new proposal. >> and is russia vladimir putin playing with children's lives . what he just did. >>> and the newspapers that published the names of licensed gun owners. fox and friends starts right now. ♪ >> julia: hello, everybody. >> three days left. three days left before we go head first over the fiscal cliff. >> julia: before we talk about the fiscal cliff. you did cavuto. you did o'rielly or i mean not o'rielly. the five. today you have this show and then cavuto and then on the five. >> you will be on the five. >> julia: and then other things. >> it is one of those days. iclele ladies and gentlemen, eric bowling -- boling is the mara thon man. >> it is good to be here. >> julia: yes, it is good to be here. >> kelly: thank you for joining us this morning. >> julia: the headlines and fox news alert it appears russian president vladimir putin is trying to make
last call in hopes of rescuing off of the fiscal cliff. all that is getting debated is who is at fault and what is the president's plan. according to the white house there is no new proposal. >> and is russia vladimir putin playing with children's lives . what he just did. >>> and the newspapers that published the names of licensed gun owners. fox and friends starts right now. ♪ >> julia: hello, everybody. >> three days left. three days left before we go head first...
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four days left of fiscal cliff talks. wow. coming up we tall to chris val hollen about the state of the negotiations. "morning joe" will be right back. oh it's clearance time! yeah, our low prices are even lower. we need to teach her how to walk. she is taking up valuable cart space. aren't you, honey? [ male announcer ] it's clearance time! up to 50% off seasonal decor. 50% off toys. apparel $3 to $9. walmart. mine was earned off vietnam in 1968. over the south pacific in 1943. i got mine in iraq, 2003. usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation. because it offers a superior level of protection, and because usaa's commitment to serve the military, veterans and their families is without equal. begin your legacy, get an auto insurance quote. usaa. we know what it means to serve. [ male announcer ] it started long ago. the joy of giving something everything you've got. it takes passion. and it's not letting up anytime soon. at unitedhealthcare insurance company, we understand that commitment. and alwa
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. >> clayton: we'll have much more on that and what the fiscal cliff means with some of those numbers. we'll dive into some of the taxes we'll all be paying. because it's going to get scary. we were talking a little bit with stuart varney about some of the taxes that you'll pay no matter what regarding that payroll tax hike that you're going to see. everyone is going to get hit. that's not even part of the discussion, hasn't even been put on the table this morning. >> juliet: speak of scary, based on what happened in newtown and what's happened in other schools around the country, parents understandably are scared. educators are concerned about security in schools. let's go to utah where the teachers will be getting weapons training today. and arizona's attorney general plans to have trained or principal trained with a gun inside the school. basically they're not saying they want the teachers to go roaming the halls with a gun. but this is like the last standr classroom. >> clayton: the first response are how are they going to allow guns in utah. in utah, one of the few states that al
. >> clayton: we'll have much more on that and what the fiscal cliff means with some of those numbers. we'll dive into some of the taxes we'll all be paying. because it's going to get scary. we were talking a little bit with stuart varney about some of the taxes that you'll pay no matter what regarding that payroll tax hike that you're going to see. everyone is going to get hit. that's not even part of the discussion, hasn't even been put on the table this morning. >> juliet: speak...
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cliff. we're going to be talking about the starbucks effort a little later in the show. good morning, ladies and gentlemen. >> good morning. >> good morning. it's thursday, december 27th. i'm mike barnicle in for joe, mika and willie. joining the table, we have political editor and white house correspondent for the huffington post, sam stein. >> hi. >> applause for sam. "fortune's" assistant managing editor, leigh gallagher. and the president of the council on foreign relations, author of "foreign policy begins at home: the case for putting america's house in order." and in washington, vice president and executive editor of msnbc.com and msnbc political analyst, richard wolffe. a minor round of applause for richard wolffe. >> one hand clapping. >> first of all, can anybody here come up with a synonym -- i don't care what it is -- so we don't have to employ the phrase "fiscal cliff" at all during the day? any ideas? anybody got any -- >> how about deadline? >> how about do your job. how about
cliff. we're going to be talking about the starbucks effort a little later in the show. good morning, ladies and gentlemen. >> good morning. >> good morning. it's thursday, december 27th. i'm mike barnicle in for joe, mika and willie. joining the table, we have political editor and white house correspondent for the huffington post, sam stein. >> hi. >> applause for sam. "fortune's" assistant managing editor, leigh gallagher. and the president of the council on...